Podcast:The Growth Podcast Published On: Sat Apr 26 2025 Description: Two VPs (Aakash & Brad) candidly discuss how they went from their first PM job to VP, what actually helped them (no gatekeeping), and how you can do the same.Brought to you by:Linear: Plan and build products like the bestAmplitude: Try their 2-minute assessment of your company’s digital maturityIn this episode:Trailer – 00:00 Intro to Brad & Abrigo – 01:25 How we Became PMs - 2:55 How to Grow from PM to Senior PM – 07:21 Aakash’s Journey from PM to Senior PM – 09:58 What Really Drives Promotions (Career Matrix) – 14:12 Ad (Linear) – 16:58 Ad (Amplitude) - 17:50 Deep Dive: Using the Career Matrix for Growth – 18:25 Moving from Senior PM to VP – 20:49 What It Takes to Get Promoted from IC to Manager – 26:51 This One Behavior Changes Everything (But Few PMs Do It) – 28:36 Ad (Attio) - 29:40 How to Be Seen as a Leader - 30:43 Brad’s Own Promotion Case to Manager – 34:47 Path from Manager to Director – 37:40 Aakash on Influencing a Company Without the Title – 38:48 What Helped Aakash & Brad Reach the VP Level – 48:47 Advice for PMs Who Want to Reach VP in Under 10 Years – 53:38-Where to Find BradLinkedInAbrigoEmail productgrowthppp at gmail.com to discuss advertising or guest opportunities.-I hope you enjoyed the last episode with Pawel Huryn (Complete Course: AI Product Management). Up next, we have episodes with:Matt Le May - How to be Impact-FirstAatir Abdul Rauf - VP Marketing, VFairs; 70K+ on LinkedInPhyl Terry - Author, Never Search AloneI’m so excited to share them with all of you. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.news.aakashg.com/subscribe