S8 Ep1146: Brett Forrest, The Lost Son: An American Family Trapped Inside the FBI's Secret Wars. In this segment, Forrest details his own investigation in Russia, aided by his personal history of living in Moscow and Kyiv for fifteen years. He teams up with Dmitri T
Podcast: The John Batchelor ShowPublished On: Mon Jul 20 2026
Description: Brett Forrest, The Lost Son: An American Family Trapped Inside the FBI's Secret Wars. In this segment, Forrest details his own investigation in Russia, aided by his personal history of living in Moscow and Kyiv for fifteen years. He teams up with Dmitri Turin, a private investigator hired by the Rileys after they realized the FBI would not help them. Forrest seeks to meet Mikhail Pollenov, the manager of the volunteer fighter camp where Billy stayed in Rostov-on-Don, but Pollenov refuses to meet. He does, however, find Elena Gorbacheva, a photojournalist who had taken pictures of Billy on the day he arrived. Another key contact is "the general," a former member of the Russian services and a longtime friend of Forrest, who introduces him to Anastasia Mikhailovska, a woman who becomes critical to the investigation. Forrest visits Rostov-on-Don in the summer of 2018, noting the city's historic connection to the Cossacks and its modern role as a staging point for Russian military activities in Ukraine. He discovers that the volunteer camp Billy visited had been largely "cleaned out" by the time of the 2018 World Cup. The segment also explores the administrative nature of Billy's role as a CHS, explaining how the FBI's post-9/11 "re-engineering project" sought to turn the bureau into an intelligence agency by recruiting people like Billy to gather information on terrorist conspiracies. A major point of intrigue is Billy's "Volga sojourn," a trip he took to cities like Volgograd and Ulyanovsk shortly after arriving in Russia, which perplexed his parents as it took him away from the Ukrainian border. Finally, Forrest notes the suspicious timing of a visit by Tim Rhames, Billy's main FBI handler, who appeared at the Riley home for the first time ever immediately after Billy went missing. (3)1891
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